Comments on: Is God mad at you?

By: LisaNotes

LisaNotes — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 17:16:25 +0000

In reply to Wayne Davies. I appreciate you adding these scriptures to the discussion, Wayne. Very good thoughts that are applicable and helpful. This was a tough chapter for me.

By: LisaNotes

LisaNotes — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 17:12:08 +0000

In reply to Barbara H.. Nicely said, Barbara. I like your wording better than Packer's. :) Sometimes he just comes across as abrupt to me in the details, when in reality we may be actually agreeing on the bigger issues.

By: Wayne Davies

Wayne Davies — Fri, 09 Oct 2015 11:19:35 +0000

I applaud you, Lisa, for acknowledging this “uncomfortableness,” and offer a loud “amen” and a hearty “ditto.” Could it be that this uneasiness when confronted with God’s wrath is one way we fulfill the biblical command to “Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling” (Psalm 2:11)? A paradox for sure! But Scripture tells us to “work out our salvation with fear and trembling” (Phil 2:12-13) because our God esteems the one who “trembles at my word” (Is 66:2). When I consider God’s wrath, I’m filled with both unspeakable joy and overwhelming sadness. I’m ecstatic because He has saved me from that wrath; but I despair at the thought of all those headed for eternal destruction in the lake of fire. And so I am “sorrowful, yet always rejoicing” (2 Cor 6:10).

By: Barbara H.

Barbara H. — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:47:20 +0000

I think what Packer meant by our choosing to be under God’s wrath is that when we refuse whatever light He shines in our hearts, there is no other alternative, no other choice. We think if people only knew what that choice ultimately meant, then of course they’d be saved – who wouldn’t want to be? But for various reasons they choose to go their “own” way, away from God’s way. But thankfully God is longsuffering and slow to anger, and I believe in most cases give multiple chances before giving someone up to their own way.

By: LisaNotes

LisaNotes — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:12:31 +0000

In reply to Bill (cycleguy). The phrase that popped into my mind as I read your comment, Bill: "a minister of reconciliation." What an honored opportunity you were given to reveal the truth of God's love to this woman. It brings tears to my eyes to think about what she's been through, and then for her to receive your words speaking truth to her instead. Shackles breaking; light entering the dark places. Thank you, brother, for how you're expanding the Kingdom.

By: LisaNotes

LisaNotes — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:52:38 +0000

In reply to Andrew Budek-Schmeisser. Thanks, Andrew. You're quite a trooper. Always glad to know you're around.

By: Bill (cycleguy)

Bill (cycleguy) — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:28:48 +0000

i spent some time in correspondence with someone yesterday who has been told all her life that God is mad at her. She left the “Amish cult” and her parents (first father and mother…now s-father and mother) have prayed down vengeance on her. They have prayed God will punish her for leaving and let everything turn bad. She lives with that belief. I told her NO, NO, NO, NO God does not do that! i do believe in wrath (particularly at judgement) but do I believe God metes out wrath because some whack job prays for it? no. My .02 worth Lisa.

By: Andrew Budek-Schmeisser

Andrew Budek-Schmeisser — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:42:55 +0000

Not really up to commenting meaningfully, but I will re-read; interesting subject. Did want to let you know I was here.