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		By: LisaNotes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-184137&quot;&gt;Loren Pinilis&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right, Loren---we can&#039;t control other people&#039;s perceptions. It reminds me of what Paul said in Romans 12:18---if it&#039;s possible, as far as it depends on us, live peaceably with all. But it doesn&#039;t all depend on us so we have to let that part go. Easier said sometimes than done.... We need to give grace to ourselves too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-184137">Loren Pinilis</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Loren&#8212;we can&#8217;t control other people&#8217;s perceptions. It reminds me of what Paul said in Romans 12:18&#8212;if it&#8217;s possible, as far as it depends on us, live peaceably with all. But it doesn&#8217;t all depend on us so we have to let that part go. Easier said sometimes than done&#8230;. We need to give grace to ourselves too.</p>
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		By: LisaNotes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-183644&quot;&gt;floyd&lt;/a&gt;.

Lots of us are buried under our own to-read lists, so join the crowd, Floyd. :) This is a good one to be on anybody&#039;s list though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-183644">floyd</a>.</p>
<p>Lots of us are buried under our own to-read lists, so join the crowd, Floyd. 🙂 This is a good one to be on anybody&#8217;s list though.</p>
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		By: LisaNotes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-183304&quot;&gt;Jean Wise&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Jean, I discovered sadly a few years back that one of my favorite authors was a horrible speaker. ha. I guess no one can hog all the talents. So I was delighted that Yancey was indeed as engaging in person as he is on the page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-183304">Jean Wise</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Jean, I discovered sadly a few years back that one of my favorite authors was a horrible speaker. ha. I guess no one can hog all the talents. So I was delighted that Yancey was indeed as engaging in person as he is on the page.</p>
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		By: Loren Pinilis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huh, a guilt dispenser more than a grace dispenser. That&#039;s pretty powerful - certainly not what I want to be. But at the same time, there&#039;s only so much we can do to control people&#039;s perceptions of us. If someone wants to view as guilt-tripping them, then it&#039;s hard to convince them otherwise.
I&#039;m also reminded of a quote I heard this week, and I&#039;m paraphrasing - Getting people saved is first about getting people lost.
What is use for grace before conviction? Grace before conviction is just tolerance. And unfortunately, that&#039;s what a lot of people want - and what a lot of people confuse with real grace.

I just hope I can speak wisely and truthfully and be known for my truth and my grace. It&#039;s a lot to think about - thanks for this thought-provoking reminder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, a guilt dispenser more than a grace dispenser. That&#8217;s pretty powerful &#8211; certainly not what I want to be. But at the same time, there&#8217;s only so much we can do to control people&#8217;s perceptions of us. If someone wants to view as guilt-tripping them, then it&#8217;s hard to convince them otherwise.<br />
I&#8217;m also reminded of a quote I heard this week, and I&#8217;m paraphrasing &#8211; Getting people saved is first about getting people lost.<br />
What is use for grace before conviction? Grace before conviction is just tolerance. And unfortunately, that&#8217;s what a lot of people want &#8211; and what a lot of people confuse with real grace.</p>
<p>I just hope I can speak wisely and truthfully and be known for my truth and my grace. It&#8217;s a lot to think about &#8211; thanks for this thought-provoking reminder.</p>
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		By: floyd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those are well thought out examples of Christians. Wise words. I&#039;ll have to add this one to my list, Lisa! You&#039;re burying me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are well thought out examples of Christians. Wise words. I&#8217;ll have to add this one to my list, Lisa! You&#8217;re burying me!</p>
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		By: Jean Wise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love your thoughtful book reviews.  I never had heard Yancey in person. Sometimes a person writes better than they present. But I imagine no matter how he spoke, lots of wisdom was there. Thanks Lisa!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your thoughtful book reviews.  I never had heard Yancey in person. Sometimes a person writes better than they present. But I imagine no matter how he spoke, lots of wisdom was there. Thanks Lisa!</p>
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		By: LisaNotes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-182814&quot;&gt;Sharon&lt;/a&gt;.

Yancey is one of my favorites too, Sharon. I&#039;ve yet to grow tired of reading his works; he keeps coming up with good stuff again and again. 

Interesting story he told us in Opelika about the church of his youth: I believe he was living in Georgia at the time, and a couple of young black theology students from a nearby college wanted to join their church. The church wouldn&#039;t let them. One of the students was Tony Evans. 

Now, years later, Tony&#039;s son, Anthony Evans, is on this book tour with Philip Yancey leading the worship! I love how God turned all that around. Grace exemplified.

And side note: the church eventually did recognize their sin and held a repentance service, inviting back Tony Evans and others that they had wronged.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-182814">Sharon</a>.</p>
<p>Yancey is one of my favorites too, Sharon. I&#8217;ve yet to grow tired of reading his works; he keeps coming up with good stuff again and again. </p>
<p>Interesting story he told us in Opelika about the church of his youth: I believe he was living in Georgia at the time, and a couple of young black theology students from a nearby college wanted to join their church. The church wouldn&#8217;t let them. One of the students was Tony Evans. </p>
<p>Now, years later, Tony&#8217;s son, Anthony Evans, is on this book tour with Philip Yancey leading the worship! I love how God turned all that around. Grace exemplified.</p>
<p>And side note: the church eventually did recognize their sin and held a repentance service, inviting back Tony Evans and others that they had wronged.</p>
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		By: LisaNotes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-182714&quot;&gt;Barbara H.&lt;/a&gt;.

It is definitely a good book. Yancey has a way of provoking thought without provoking ire. ha. He challenges me gently to be more proactive in giving grace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-182714">Barbara H.</a>.</p>
<p>It is definitely a good book. Yancey has a way of provoking thought without provoking ire. ha. He challenges me gently to be more proactive in giving grace.</p>
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		By: LisaNotes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-182661&quot;&gt;Ifeoma Samuel&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, without grace we are lost indeed. With it, we are the most blessed of all!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lisanotes.com/review-vanishing-grace/#comment-182661">Ifeoma Samuel</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, without grace we are lost indeed. With it, we are the most blessed of all!</p>
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		By: Sharon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 04:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip Yancey is one of my very favorite authors.  And I just got this book a couple of weeks ago.  I have not read it yet, but will soon.  I especially appreciate what Yancey has to say on this subject because he grew up in a very legalistic background.  He wandered from his faith for a long time.  And then he was re-captured by Grace.  His words are powerful because of that.

Yes, may we learn to copy Jesus in everything we do.  And, let us be dispensers of His grace, and not people who block others&#039; view of Him.

GOD BLESS!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Yancey is one of my very favorite authors.  And I just got this book a couple of weeks ago.  I have not read it yet, but will soon.  I especially appreciate what Yancey has to say on this subject because he grew up in a very legalistic background.  He wandered from his faith for a long time.  And then he was re-captured by Grace.  His words are powerful because of that.</p>
<p>Yes, may we learn to copy Jesus in everything we do.  And, let us be dispensers of His grace, and not people who block others&#8217; view of Him.</p>
<p>GOD BLESS!</p>
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